Sneaky Stuff
12 May 2008 at 5:18 pm | In Fox, Lenormand, Lenormand Trivia, Snake |Tags: Cartomancy, Fortune telling, Lenormand
The Snake and the Fox both have pretty bad reputations in the Lenormand deck. So what’s the difference between them?
The Fox does sometimes describe a work situation, but for me, the keyword ‘wrong’ is the one that most applies to this card. Even on the job, I’d look out for trouble. And as a person, I don’t trust the Fox - it wants what it wants, and while it can be very protective of its own, it won’t hesitate to plot against you. Misdirection is the Fox’s stock in trade, and it gets what it wants through clever deception.
The Snake is not always a bad card. If she’s riled, she can indeed strike a devastating blow, but as long as you don’t cross her, and you don’t have what she wants, then she’s usually an intelligent woman, often a friend.
When these two cards fall together, position is important.
If you see:
Snake + Fox, it means a clever woman that you can trust. But if it falls:
Fox + Snake then beware - this is a person you can’t trust.
In other words, when the Snake is ‘in control’ or comes first in this combo, she’s using her intelligence and cunning (Fox) for you. But when the Fox is in control, or comes first - it’s likely going to be trouble. I think this may be because the Fox stirs up the Snake, and the Snake is more likely to eat (make use of) the Fox in nature.
If the combination falls vertically:

Then you have two rivals or people involved in deceiving you.
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Hi Chanah,
Great explanation of the differences!
Do you always read the Snake as a woman first, and only as betrayal or lies, etc. in certain cases? In other words, I’m curious how you decide which meaning applies?
Also, there you go again with special interps for cards falling in the vertical positions!
Is there a general rule for reading vertical as opposed to horizontal lines, or does it just depend on the individual combos?
Thanks,
Aristede
Comment by Aristede — 12 May 2008 #
It depends entirely on the context. Sometimes the Snake fits more as a woman, sometimes as a betrayal, sometimes - both. Sometimes she’s a twisty road (look for travel cards nearby). You need to look at the surrounding cards. These ones have come from my own experience (recently had a big OUCH - interestingly that involved both a woman - who did the evil thing, and a man - who was party to it - yes, the financial saga continues).
I’ve also found Snake + Fox in my own readings refers to a particular woman I do some freelance work with sometimes, and who’s always been trustworthy. Plus it’s come up in other people’s readings - this is one of those combos that seems to show up often, though I don’t know if that’s statistically valid.
If I saw Snake + Gentleman, and he wasn’t involved with anyone, I’d say he was a very intelligent man. Like Snake + Lady - an intelligent woman who keeps her own counsel.
In a love triangle, the Snake next to the Heart is going to be bad, and usually refers to a woman, while the Fox next to the Heart isn’t so great either, and usually refers to a man. This can get really interesting when both parties are cheating on each other.
So you need to know the question, or at least get a feel for what’s going on with the querent from the rest of the cards.
As to the vertical interps being a bit different, yes, there are some that seem to hold true. Sometimes it can be as easy as looking at the pictures - the Clouds overhead indicate a great deal of worry, and imagine how you’d feel is someone was holding that Scythe over your head.
Occasionally, the diagonals can give you a slightly different read as well.
And sometimes it’s just experience. You see something vertically, get a general idea, then something happens, and you go ‘a-ha!’ - and never forget that one again. Another reason it’s important to write down your readings.
Ditto with the horizontal combos - which card comes first? If you see the Garden + Lady, she’s likely to be a social butterfly. If the Lady controls the Garden, such as it would be the other way round, she’s probably very picky about the company she keeps.
It’s a good question - and if I can think of any general rules with this (aside from which card is in control) I’ll post them.
Comment by Chanah — 12 May 2008 #
This is very interesting Chanah. I was going to post a question at the forum about the order of cards in combos. Your explanation of the first card being “in control” makes a lot of sense.
Comment by archertarot — 12 May 2008 #
Thank you Chanah, the idea of a ‘control’ card makes a lot of sense to me too.
One more thing–hope you don’t mind…
When you read the houses, is the house or the card that falls in the house the control card?
Thanks!
Comment by Aristede — 12 May 2008 #
Hi Guys -
Thanks - one of the things I like about this blog is that it does force me to THINK.
So you all are asking good questions
When I read houses, I take the House as the first card, and the card that falls in the house as the second card.
So if the combination came up as Bouquet in the First House, I’d read it as Rider + Bouquet (someone’s bringing a very nice gift or very nice news, maybe even a marriage proposal).
Comment by Chanah — 12 May 2008 #